Friday, October 10, 2014

Democracy now, or nothing?

Amazingly, protesters are still occupying Admiralty/Central, Mongkok and Causeway Bay.  

Many people who support their aspirations are advising them to retreat.  The reasons may vary: the danger of violent crackdown, antagonising other citizens and losing support popular, futility of asking Beijing to change its mind, exploitation by sinister foreign powers, …  


It seems that some of the students feel that they cannot retreat unless the government makes at least some significant concessions.  But the government is not making any, and actually appears to be playing some kind of game with them.  Hence the standoff. 


Many people are sympathetic to the students.  Yet they feel that what the students demand - for Beijing to overturn its earlier decision and to allow citizen nominations - is impossible, at least for now.  


The students have already shown the world their desire for democracy, their determination and ability to mobilise.  They cannot won the ultimate struggle for democracy here and now.  The struggle for democracy is a long one.  It will not be won in one day, one year, our lifetime, and even many lifetimes. But they have made a giant step forward.  Hong Kong, and even China, are indebted to them.  


But many students do not feel that way. They are young and for many of them, this is their very first attempt to realise their dream.  For them, there is no past and no future; the only reality is now.  They feel that if they do not get a significant concession from the government now, they will have lost everything.  

That’s unfortunate.  For history is real, and takes a long time. 

3 comments:

YTSL said...

Hi Stephen --

My two cents more than a week on: Can you believe that protesters are still occupying Admiralty/Central, Mongkok and Causeway Bay?

I think things have taken a life of their own due in large part to the fact that seemingly every time the movement looks like it's on its last legs, the authorities do something outrageous that gets people thinking "we can't let them bully us like this!"

The students' main and ultimate demand still looks unreachable. But maybe it's not impossible for certain "sacrificial goats" to be made by Beijing - e.g., the ouster of CY Leung. Alternatively, CY Leung may decide to make himself look good by jettisoning Andy Tsang.

In any case, these protests and the attempts by the authorities to shut them down have shown clearly what ills there are in Hong Kong -- and those ills most certainly don't lie with the most civil and well-behaved protesters on the planet.

YTSL said...

Hi Stephen --

My two cents more than a week on: Can you believe that protesters are still occupying Admiralty/Central, Mongkok and Causeway Bay?

I think things have taken a life of their own due in large part to the fact that seemingly every time the movement looks like it's on its last legs, the authorities do something outrageous that gets people thinking "we can't let them bully us like this!"

The students' main and ultimate demand still looks unreachable. But maybe it's not impossible for certain "sacrificial goats" to be made by Beijing - e.g., the ouster of CY Leung. Alternatively, CY Leung may decide to make himself look good by jettisoning Andy Tsang.

In any case, these protests and the attempts by the authorities to shut them down have shown clearly what ills there are in Hong Kong -- and those ills most certainly don't lie with the most civil and well-behaved protesters on the planet.

StephenC said...

Agree with you wholeheartedly. Despite all the attempts to paint the protesters as violent and unreasonable, they have behaved admirably.